Rtp not what you say

Continuing the discussion from Game still locking up:

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Just dropped another 175 bucks no significant wins across the board. Seems like what people are saying is true, the rtp is nowhere near what you guys claim. Used to be able to play for several hours on 150 bucks or so but now your balance never exceeds your deposit no matter what games I play. It just runs to zero with a few wins scattered about every twenty or thirty spins.

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I hear that it’s really ridiculous and I’m so tired of hearing about Rng blah blah blah.

You have a financially dangerous misunderstanding of RTP. Gambling is built upon exploiting the most vulnerable parts of our psyche. Large numbers and probabilities are just very unintuitive to us but truth is when an algorithm spins 10 billion times and has an RTP of 96% it doesn’t lie. No individual can ever even come close to playing enough to reach true RTP and ignore variance. RTP is by no means a guarantee of anything other than showing that over an extremely large sample size the game returns a certain amount of money in using the law of large numbers.

Lets say hypothetically 10 people are playing reels n wheels XL. Machine reaches x amount in, holds and pays 4% of x for the casino (y) and pays out the other 96% to players on the game (z). The casino literally just gets a rakeback of money in and the players losses pay other players wins. (Keep in mind that a portion of every spin by a player also funds the jackpots on any progressive games and iirc jackpots are also included in the rtp)

One time I hit a $465 win on lawless ladies with a $0.4 bet. How do u think that works? how come I can win 1300x my bet but if don’t hit anything good for 1000 spins it’s all shady and sus? I can win a $1000 mini on reels with a 40 cent bet and I could also spin away $5000 and not hit it. At any given time there is a player on either of those sides. The slot does not know you, remember you, track anything but it’s general money in/out.

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Incorrect. The slot does know you and most definitely tracks you… ever get booted from a game during a spin and come back to the spin continuing? Ever check the history logs? Also, you most definitely can tell the difference when RTP has shifted. It’s a simple config setting for them to adjust the weights for the RNG and dramatically cut the RTP down… something many of noticed since December.

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I’m with u it definitely tracks you. They control it

What I mean is the algorithm for the slot is not sentient and doesn’t decide whether to pay you out or not based on your history with that game. You nitpicked the very last sentence of my whole post and then followed it with a totally baseless claim about a config file to knock down rtp built upon anecdote.

Even if they knocked rtp down by 10% they would still be above most land based casinos. And again it’s a stupid amount of spins. Not a guarantee of anything for you. Just a “proof” that the game returns xyz. In theory you could have 10,000 dead spins and on the 10,001’st hit a max win and say “hey this game is 95% rtp”

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Not to mention that slots are made by 3rd parties and are programmed with certain RTPs. Don’t see how bovada etc could just alter the rtp live while people are actively playing.

I agree ive been depositing a d it seems to go out faster with no wins

That’s all I’m saying. Money goes in but can’t even win bet back most times.

Well said Chugs!